2 ([info]2_gryphon) wrote,
@ 2008-11-09 23:30:00
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RBW 2008
I have a bit of an announcement to make.

There has been some confusion as to whether or not I'll be attending RBW this year. There were flyers distributed at Eurofurence that listed me as one of the attractions. There is also a graphic on the RBW website that shows me, along with other guests of honor for this year. This evening, RBW sent out an e-mail saying that all of their GOHs were set to attend the event.

While I don't believe any false advertising is intended here, I think it might be a little bit misleading to some folks.

Earlier this year, I sent e-mails to the RBW chairman and at Eurofurence in August, I spoke with FoxB directly. He graciously invited me to attend RBW this year and I had to regretfully refuse.

My reasons for turning him down have not been what some folks have rumored them to be. I think RBW is a very professional event, run by a gracious and responsible set of furs. I have always had fun at every RBW event I have attended, and was rather disappointed that I could not make it this year.

The fact is that RBW is scheduled over the Thanksgiving holidays this year. I will likely be with my family during this time, which is why I cannot attend RBW.

I suspect there has been some miscommunication, which is why I still appear on the web site. And I would feel very bad if anyone showed up to the event expecting to see me there while I'm sitting in my mother's kitchen in Arkansas.

So I want to make it clear. I will not be attending RBW this year. Having spoken with FoxB, there is a good possibility that I will attend the 2009 event. But I will not be there this year.


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[info]eagle_bird
2008-11-10 05:29 am UTC (link)
2 is attending "Mother's Kitchen: Arkansas" this year. Oh, the problems you'd face if the Paparazzi were after you XD

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[info]lazureusfalcone
2008-11-10 05:38 am UTC (link)
I could see how that could cause some confusion. Hope you have a great American Thanksgiving with your folks 2.

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[info]missixis
2008-11-10 08:40 am UTC (link)
Dammit 2. Just how good could your mum's kitchen possibly be?

I'm disappointed you arent going but I know family is way more important than a furry convention, hope you guys have a lovely thanksgiving.

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[info]2_gryphon
2008-11-10 11:36 am UTC (link)
Are you kidding? I get stuffed full of home cooked food, then get to sit and be lazy while watching TV... and I don't even have to perform! :)

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[info]restorf
2008-11-10 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Your mother's just fattening you up for Thanksgiving next year...

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[info]cheetah_spotty
2008-11-10 09:46 am UTC (link)
Well, I'm one of the leftover GOHs, and I've got the reverse problem ... I'm very able and willing to attend, but so far, I haven't got my tickets :)

As far as I know, the chairman of the event left the team in the middle of the planning process because of personal differences, and the remaining folks who had to take over had no information about any previous communication, and seem to be struggling to get things on track.

Poor FoxB! I hope they get everything sorted out.

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[info]tryst_fel_cath
2008-11-10 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Hi Cheetah!

I will kick some butt to get you sorted out.

I should be doing the AV stuff, but we've all had to take on a lot more work. The show must go on!

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[info]rapidofrog
2008-11-10 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Hiyas!

I just thought i would set the record straight for your information, as i'm not sure what you've heard!

I left the organization as i could no longer work with the other director, however upon my resignation i was locked out of the website and other systems within 20 minutes so was left unable to give information. I sent a very large email containing all your details that i requested.

I have emails dated through august, july and september asking where they would like paperwork sent and other hard copies, i received no reply. I have records of a very huge email sent to all of the directors in august giving them information on the venue, boat and other bookings, as well as all of the GoH i was supervising. However i can only assume they have lost it or something?

I must explain that since my resignation in july, i have yet to receive a phone call asking for any information or enquiring on anything. the hard copies of paperwork ended up being sent to the company registered address as it was far approaching october and no-one had collected it or arranged pick-up. I'm sorry your tickets have not been booked, i was going to book them in august!

To give you an idea of the current miss-management, i received a call from the boat people asking if i still wanted the booking?! you would have thought they have had the time since august to at least change the details or contact phone number! i wouldn't be surprised if the venue and other bookings were still in my name and as such i'm somehow responsible? I'm no longer able to make decisions for venue bookings and as such i'm forbidden by UK company law to interfere in bookings, therefore i cannot even inform them, i need to wait for someone from RBW to actually look at and pay the bookings!

I'm sorry i've had to tell you here but its only fair you know the whole picture, but please don't need to reply, i don't want this to be a drama exercise.

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[info]foxb
2008-11-10 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Just go ahead - really. You've told everyone else how terrible we all are.

Thankfully people like Tryst, Kittiah, Marcony, Orona, Muzz, Tre, Zen, Ultraviolet, Graafan, the people from Confuzzled (the other uk con), and a mired of furs from around Europe have all been helping organise this event. It is going to happen.

Ticket _ARE_ booked for cheetah and all the other GoHs, Kittiah has got all the boat booked, the Royal National has paid, and we're in control.

The way you and a couple of other have been launching a attack against RBW has made me very ill and to the point were [info]orona_red had to stop me from taking my own life. Why? Well because RBW isn't about me - if I fail, if we fail, then close to 300 people loose out - Not you - not me - Them! Some of them I don't even know, some I don't even like, but that doesn't matter because I'm doing this for the community and i feel helpless with you and the other simply doing your hardest to make it fail.

Thankfully I have had people around me to help me back on my feet and this month I'm back and I'm doing my hardest to set things right. I'm not getting dragged into dealing with you or anyone else who wants to fuck me up. I'm just going to make sire we have 300 odd happy faces at the end of the weekend.

Rapido: I'm leaving after RBW 2008, im close to a nervous breakdown and i cant continue even if I wanted to. If you want to fuck me up, you want revenge - then come and get it - but get it towards me not the people it effects, do it after RBW. I even offered you the con back after all didn't I?!

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[info]doggybernie
2008-11-10 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Such a shame Orona stopped you.. my god i would have danced on your grave!

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[info]cheetah_spotty
2008-11-10 09:58 pm UTC (link)
Now that is just immature.

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[info]doggybernie
2008-11-10 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Immature? ah yes probably but sadly it's easy for everyone on the out side to judge each and all situations however, trust me if you had to put up with the crap from foxB that i have, you would want to strangle him with his own watch.

But also on another note, Immature is what the fur community is all about, isn't it?

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[info]cheetah_spotty
2008-11-10 10:07 pm UTC (link)
What you said was immature regardless of the situation. And I'm going to ignore you now :)

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[info]doggybernie
2008-11-10 10:11 pm UTC (link)
and you call me immature, what are you going to do next scream for mummy as this mean man is picking on me..! well ignore me or not, my previous points still stand...

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[info]pluckyfox
2008-11-12 10:08 am UTC (link)
What a disgusting thing to say. Really.

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[info]kittiah
2008-11-12 10:15 am UTC (link)
Sickening, childish and pathetic.

That's all i can say about that particular response.
- Kitt

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[info]cheetah_spotty
2008-11-10 10:14 pm UTC (link)
Just for the record, I DID get my tickets today, as promised, and everything looks fine :) You guys can put away the flamethrowers now :) I'm sorry for the indiscretion, I shouldn't have posted this hear, I totally underestimated with how much passion you guys hate each other.

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[info]renamix6
2008-11-10 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Please be abit more Professional, Alls being discussed, no need to Dregde up previously mentioned stuff.

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[info]doggybernie
2008-11-10 11:20 pm UTC (link)
well i can put on a suit if that helps? ;)

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[info]cheetah_spotty
2008-11-11 12:11 am UTC (link)
I'm not posting here in any offical function, and while I agree with you that it wasn't a good idea to stir this up in the first place, I really don't feel like the one acting the most unprofessional in this "conversation" ... and sorry, I at least felt obligued to clear up the issue with the tickets, which was solved instantly after I posted, and unrelated to that posting. I just fell for my own impatience, and didn't expect things to go aflame in such a bad way, for which I wanted to apologize ... even though I admit, I couldn resist doing it the british way :)

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[info]renamix6
2008-11-11 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Sorry Cheetah :) that wasnt Directed at you :) All you did was ask a simple friendly question ^^

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[info]2_gryphon
2008-11-11 12:03 pm UTC (link)
It's not your fault Cheetah. You weren't aware of who was reading my journal when you posted. I know your intentions weren't harmful. I apologize for the bit of drama there.

Edited at 2008-11-11 12:48 pm UTC

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[info]2_gryphon
2008-11-11 12:10 pm UTC (link)
Guys, this isn't the place for this.

Neither you nor Rapido have ever acted in any way other than professional and friendly toward me and I have nothing negative to say about either of you.

I honestly did not intend for this post to become a platform for any rivalry. I simply wanted to address the issue clearly so that no one would blame RBW or me for my absence this year.

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[info]kandrel
2008-11-10 02:26 pm UTC (link)
I know this is completely off topic, but did anyone get/keep a recording of the 2sense election coverage? It was simply too late for me to watch here in the UK, but I really would love to still see it, even if it's no longer still "live".

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[info]katheralockhart
2008-11-10 04:37 pm UTC (link)
do not worry, Jibba did record it and will be uploading it soon :>

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[info]cedar_musketeer
2008-11-10 03:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad you are putting family first, that is the kind of thing people in this day and age just don't seem to do anymore.

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[info]katheralockhart
2008-11-10 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Huh? I thought you were already at RBW, if you were at another london furmeet, then thats probably what confused me, I was sort of wondering that when you said you couldn't attend RBW due to it being thanksgiving,but anyways, if you can clarify this, then I will at least have the correct info :P.

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[info]unclekage
2008-11-10 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Maybe you can do a live cast from Thanksgiving Dinner. Try to do your routine with your mouth full of stuffing and cranberry sauce. It'll be like the marshmallow challenge!

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[info]tryst_fel_cath
2008-11-10 04:44 pm UTC (link)
I support this idea thoroughly =D

We have the technology!

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[info]2_gryphon
2008-11-11 12:13 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm. Live Thanksgiving Dinner 2008 coverage.

But I'd have to bring Jibba. And he'd eat everything.

Edited at 2008-11-11 12:13 pm UTC

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[info]youlanda
2008-11-11 09:13 pm UTC (link)
You know, someone would probably fap to that.

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[info]tryst_fel_cath
2008-11-10 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Hi 2,

Intentionally or otherwise (I certainly can't speak with authority on that) you slipped off the programming quite quietly when we announced the new guests.

I'll see what we can do about clearing up the confusion.

~Tryst
AV Co-ordinator

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[info]foxb
2008-11-10 08:22 pm UTC (link)
What he said, sorry it wasn't updated. Soon after EF I wasn't around to do any RBW work. I have asked for the banner to be removed.

If it is any good we did send a email around about end of September saying you could no longer come. I will be sending an email in the next day or so about it and making sure people are clear. TBH, most people are from those i have spoken to, but just incase.

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[info]2_gryphon
2008-11-11 12:16 pm UTC (link)
I figured the site was probably just updated around the graphic that says I'll be there and it just slipped through.

I just don't want to see anyone blaming RBW if they happen to go there expecting to see me.

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[info]pluckyfox
2008-11-12 10:10 am UTC (link)
Look foward to seeing ya in 2009. Fingers crossed! :3

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[info]wildw0lf
2008-11-23 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'll be with family over ThanksGiving weekend too. Do you get along with your immediate family?

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